She is in the 5th grade at the elementary school a few blocks down the street. Her 11th birthday is less than a month away. She likes to ride bikes, watch cartoons, and is crazy about Hannah Montana.
Evidently she is also crazy about a boy in her class at school.
Last Thursday morning at about 10:30 I got a call from her teacher. She said that she'd intercepted a note that Diva wrote to "another student in the class" that was of a sensitive nature. The teacher wouldn't come right out and say what exactly my dear child said. But she said she'd send the note home to me in a large sealed manila envelope. OK. I debated whether to go over to the school and try to get it myself before Diva had a chance to "lose" it. I decided to wait.
When Diva arrived home at 3:00 that afternoon she was all sweet and smiley. She is usually a cheerful child, unless she's pouting about something specific. Without waiting for me to ask for it, she produced the large envelope from her book bag. Sproing made some excuse about going to see his friend and bounced out of the house. Good. I didn't want him involved in whatever this turned out to be.
I opened the package to find a nice stationery envelope with the name of the object of her affection (misspelled, I think. She pronounces his name with an "n" in it, but there was no such letter in the address). To give further clue to what I didn't want to think, there was a big luscious lipstick kiss across the flap of the envelope. Where did this child learn about sealing a letter with a kiss?? Inside the envelope were two pieces of the matching note paper (mine, which she took without permission, but that's so beyond the point). On the first page was scribbled in green marker "XXXXXXX means kiss 100x's 100 kiss's" It looks much more random on the note paper than I can make it look typed out like this. But that's the message, loud and clear.
So I brought forward the second page. It says, in green magic marker, "Do you want to have sex? Yes or No roomers"
Oh, shit. Deep breath, Mom. Don't yell. Remain calm whatever you do!
I was sitting in the chair I'm in right now, her standing beside me. I took a few breaths. And said "Um, Diva? Um, wha'... um... who... um, ah, ..." No good. Try again. "Diva, um, how... wha'..." This isn't going well. By this time I'm holding my forehead with my left hand, the notes in my right. "Ah, Diva, um, did you, ah, ...um... We need to talk about this." Good move Mom. You can't even speak. I don't remember if I made any coherent sentences after that until I told her to go to her room. I was calm as I said it. In retrospect I realize I should have said "We need to talk about this, but I need some time to gather my thoughts." Well, my thoughts weren't gathered enough to say that, but whatever.
I didn't have the heart to call Superman. I didn't want to tell him over the phone, you know? Eventually he came home. Diva was in her room most of the rest of the afternoon, and ended up cleaning her room very well. Her Dad came home, she was out of her room, we had supper, life happened. Of course I told Superman about it, had showed him the notes by then. I knew we needed to discuss this before she went to bed.
As the kids were beginning to get ready for bed around 8:00 I called Diva into my room. Superman and I were sitting on the bed. I was calm. I asked her about the notes. We talked. I was calm. She answered my questions. After some bit of discussion something she said prompted me to ask her what she meant by the question. Was she curious about his intent, or was she inviting him to have sex with her? Her eyes brightened up and she said, "Yes, I wanted to know. See, that's what I wrote there," pointing to the word "roomers." Then she read the note to me, filling in a whole sentence that contained the word "rumors" and indicating she had heard that he wanted to have sex with her. She was just curious about it.
The child lies with astonishing frequency. I could tell, however, that she was being totally honest about her intent. I suspect she was a bit befuddled about all this fuss. The teacher had discussed it, I had been unable to clearly speak when I read the note, she'd spent the afternoon in her room, and now we were having one of those infamous "discussions" that parents have with their children. But I was calm. Superman sat on the bed and didn't say a word that I can recall. He didn't know what to say, either.
These are a few of the things we talked about. I asked does she know what sex is? Yes. What? Rather hesitant and embarrassed she said "When a boy sticks his dick in my, um, you know, privates." OK, she's got that one pretty much figured out. "Have you ever had sex before?" I ask, masking my fear. "NO! Ewww." Oh, thank Gawd.
I talked about how old one should be to have sex, what state of a relationship one should have before becoming intimate. I always try to ask her questions (I am the question queen, after all) to get her to participate in these discussions. If I just drone on, she tunes me out. It is so hard to make this stuff applicable to a child her age. I tried to tell her about how a sexual relationship involves complex emotions that children aren't able to handle. The thing is, at her stage of emotional development she doesn't have the maturity to understand that it takes maturity to successfully enter into a consenting sexual relationship. Half the stuff I said to her probably went right over her head. I realized as I was speaking the words that she wouldn't understand them. I repeated myself, trying to simplify with each repetition. The dear child watched me with rapt attention, a very unusual state for her.
At one point during the conversation when I was talking about writing notes to boys (Don't!) she said "Do you want to see the other notes I wrote to him?" I remain calm. "Yes, I would." She runs out of the room, Superman and I look at each other, and I whisper "There are more????"
The one note in question had the number 3 written in the upper right corner of the envelope. Yep, the third of six notes. None of the rest had been opened. I calmly told her I'll hang on to these notes, since it isn't proper for her to be writing notes to the boys right now. Y'all, I haven't had the guts to open the other envelopes! And number 6 is addressed to this boy's mom and dad! I still have them all right here.
One thing I don't want to do is fill her head with fear and superstitions about sex. Respect, yes. Outlandish unhealthy ideas, no. I told her that now is about the right time for her to start to think about boys (or girls, as the case may be. You know I'm cool either way. But since the note was written to a boy, I didn't bring that up.) and about being in love. But it's the time to just think about it, not do anything! This is a time for young boys and girls to practice these emotions, and it will take a lot of time to figure it all out. Take your time, child, don't be in such a rush!! No, I didn't say that out loud. Do you think she heard me thinking it?
So that's where we stand now. A week later and all seems calm. This is not the end. The next 7-8 years are gonna be real doozies.
25 comments:
WOW! My sister was having similar things happening in her daughters life. In fact my sister was telling me its driving her around the bend because her daughter has started telling lies all the time just to get near this boy she fancies. I respect you for remaining calm and trying to deal with it all in that manner. I think kids open up more when they see parents are willing to listen and advise. If you go charging at them they just clam up and don't talk about anything. She is obviously at that stage in life now where she will be very curious about a lot of things. Just deal with further things in the same way if you can and then she will probably talk to you a lot more openly if she thinks you are willing to listen in a nice way etc. Kids! Ya gota love em! :-)
Please forgive me upfront, first I almost fell out of my sick bed, you know I have the ICK, but this was too funny, I couldn't help laughing. Children with keep you on your toes no doubt, won't they?
BTW, Is Ick curable?
Wow. You are in for the ride of your life. Apparently she's seen TV shows or movies where sex is the next step after you like someone. She may feel she has to do this in order to be liked; and if she has issues about her worthiness, it is not uncommon for that to lead to promiscuity. But I'm willing to bet you already know that. Sex can be a substitute for the intimacy we all seek. Keep talking with her, and keep her talking to you. Help Diva to find that sense of belonging that being in a family can bring. She and Sproing will have a harder time than most, but being contributing members of your family can help. And get copies of those letters to her counselor. Continued prayers for your whole family, sweetie.
I think you're doing fine, baby. I don't have any wisdom at all. Birdie's your gal in this corner!
I just found your post terrific.
Diva must be divine.
Seven to eight years of sheer joy.
That is what you are facing. I just know you and Superman are going to have a blast as you go thru it with Diva.
Holy. Shit. I feel like your earlier response; I can't even formulate thoughts. Where does she get these ideas!? Where do her friends get these ideas?!
I just don't know, mum. Good luck, and there's always the standby of burlap bags and rafters! Maybe she'll get a chastity belt for Christmas....
Indigo Incarnates
Well, a good place to start is letting her know a few things about sex:
-- Babies are forever. If you have one, you have to raise it for a minumum of 18 years, but usually for 21-24 years.
-- The boy will skidaddle the day the baby comes (you really can believe that one 100%)
-- Teens who get pregnant tend to have babies with low birth weight (because the teen's body is still developing and it competes with the baby for nutrition).
-- Abortion has long-term physical and psychological effects that can last for years or decades.
Yes, sex between two loving people is great -- when you're an adult with a job, heh heh. ;)
I have to say, shamefully, that I laughed out loud....maybe out of some weird emotion. But I'm with Stephen thinking it's sort of funny what kids think and do. But nervewracking, nonetheless. And you're so right on with not wanting to put fear into her....never let her see you sweat. I believe it's important to remove the "power" and "stigma" that these things tend to have over us. Treat them clearly, responsibly, and directly.... and don't ever let me be around the kids... I'll teach them bad tricks!
I laughed. I know, I'm bad.
Wow! Um, scare that child! LOL!
As the mom of two teenage daughters (18 and 14) I recommend being as open and honest about this with her as possible. The more she knows, the better off she is. I will keep some prayers going for you!
holy toledo! the worst we had to deal with was boy asking what masturbation was (the public health nurse was obviously uncomfortable with the concept of talking to kids about this and used language that was far to technical for kids, or even adults for that matter). he's not shown much in the way of interest in either guys or girls (he's 16). according to him he's playing the field and biding his time.
i'm so gosh darned lucky!
I know of a similar situation that has been brought to MYSPACE and it is NOT pretty.
Lol rox. I admire your calm and rational approach. I hope it works. Like Indigo said, babies are forever.
Okay. I admit it. I did laugh a little, but having lived through a teenage daughter I know this is serious.
It sounds like you are handling this fine and I think Birdie is the best one to listen to. Good luck! I have a feeling the next few years are going to be interesting.
Thus, it starts . . .
( I hope you don't mind me being that wee fly on the wall watching what happens next. Just don't swat me. ) ;-)
Whenever I think my life is hard or challenging, I remember people like you trying to raise a child. I can think of no more important work yet so mind boggling how emotional it is.
I liked you did a calm process. that seems right.
my heart has just taken a leap towards your direction. you will get through all this, of course.
i was curious about so many things at that age, but only experimenting with the ones i wasn't actually talking about. can she handle the responsibilities and the consequences of sex right now? maybe if she learned that part she would be less eager.
i have faith in your abilities d..
unfortunately, i just can't predict outcomes.
Just glad that I am the Grandpa and not the Dad. Although my 10 year old Grand daughter wore a bra and stuffed it with Kleenex. At the end of the school day, she told her Grand mother that it was uncomfortable and wondered how and why women wore such things. That made Grandma proud as she doesn't own one, a bra that is, and hasn't worn one except in the rare occasion that she felt like it might be the right thing to do!
Hang in there. I applaud the not over reacting on your part. Kids grow up, some sooner rather than later, some quickly. They seem to have a fine Mom with a good head on her shoulders.
I'll be in Clarks Hill/ McCormack next weekend. I'll wave as I pass through Greenwood.
Peace to All.
I wouldn't even know where to start. It sounds like you handled it appropriately though! Good luck!! ((HUGS))
I'm not trying to be the killjoy here but I guess I didn't really see much humor in this. Mainly because with our daughter and her past, I can see something like this happening very easily. Except that with ours, the idea of going too far would equate receiving attention that she so desperately craves and I have to wonder if the boundaries will be too easily crossed. I totally sympathize with your reaction and wondering how to deal with it though. Geez, fifth grade, she's still a baby! I hate how society forces them to grow up too fast.
Oh, Java.
You poor thing! I don't envy you this one, but I've been there.
No matter what you tell her or she tells you, I'd watch her like a hawk. That's all the advice I feel qualified to give.
I JUST found you, read this post, and am completely intrigued. Consider yourself blogrolled and I'll catch up when I can!
Java, babe, hang in there. You may be going for quite a ride with this girl...but you can definitely moderate the trip with lots of talking...discussion, honesty, laughter and so on.
Here's where those walks between the two of you might be nice.
WOAH! I do believe I held my breath for the entire first part of this post.
Um, Wow, just ...... Wow.....
Yikes!
Don't really know what else to say.
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